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Chapter IV · The Vessels · Section 3: At a contemporary tea table — reading “碗越州上鼎州次婺州次岳州上寿州洪州次”

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A-Qing · 2025-10-22 08:02

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Thesis

“碗越州上鼎州次婺州次岳州上寿州洪州次” still has operational value at a contemporary tea table, provided Tang conditions are not silently universalised.

Text

“For tea bowls, those of Yuezhou are best, Dingzhou and Wuzhou next; of the Yuezhou type, Yue is finest, then Shouzhou and Hongzhou.”

Context

唐代评瓷碗,越窑青瓷为上。陆羽推"越窑类玉、类冰"。

Evidence

  • Collation: 本句版本差异较大:四库本作"碗,越州上,鼎州次,婺州次;岳州上,寿州次,洪州次",与百川学海本略异;"越州上"之断句历代有争,今从通行本。
  • Existing readings: 吴觉农释此句:陆羽以"类玉类冰"推崇越窑青瓷,因其釉色青绿,与茶汤相衬更显清澈;其"青瓷胜白瓷"之论,与唐代以"青"为尚的审美一致。

Analysis

To repeat this section today is not to copy a Tang utensil list. It is to keep its order of judgment: leaf first, then water and fire, then the table.

Conclusion

The section does not give a universal rule. It demonstrates a method: read the text, the annotation and the Tang context together before making a modern claim.


Source: The Classic of Tea, Chapter IV · The Vessels, section 3; the original is in the public domain.

Tea is grown and made, not just discussed.

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#2M
Marginalia · 2025-10-22 08:49

Modern tea science would split the sentence into cultivar, soil, light and plucking variables. 吴觉农释此句:陆羽以"类玉类冰"推崇越窑青瓷,因其釉色青绿,与茶汤相衬更显清澈;其"青瓷胜白瓷"之论,与唐代以"青"为尚的审美一致。 The variables remain useful, but none of them alone explains the cup.

Get the character right before the taste.

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#3V
Vessel Zhou · 2025-10-22 09:36

Storage adds another variable: moisture and temperature. 本句版本差异较大:四库本作"碗,越州上,鼎州次,婺州次;岳州上,寿州次,洪州次",与百川学海本略异;"越州上"之断句历代有争,今从通行本。 Old and young tea do not share one shelf life, so “the older the better” is not a rule.

A vessel carries tea and its period.

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#4W
Water Notes · 2025-10-22 10:23

As a new reader, I first took “碗越州上鼎州次婺州次岳州上寿州洪州次” as a conclusion. Reading the annotation to section 3 again, it is clearly a judgment with conditions attached.

Half a cup is water.

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